Comments on: How to Get MLS Access Without a License http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/ Real Estate Investing, Undressed: Tips, ideas and news real estate investors can use. Thu, 03 May 2012 03:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: jp moses http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155558 jp moses Sat, 28 Apr 2012 03:54:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155558 Dear, “Guest”. No, the data available to the general public is not nearly as in-depth as what can be tapped directly in the MLS. It’s also not nearly as searchable. You cannot filter the data in nearly as useful or as powerful a way as the MLS allows. And I for one don’t have a distrust of Realtors, any more than I have a distrust of my fellow investors or plumbers or pastors. People are people…some are awesome, some are rotten, some are ignorant. There just seems to be a large number of Realtors who don’t “get” investors, and tend to see us a necessary evil to be tolerated rather than a vital part of the real estate economy. Regardless it’s certainly not all of them, and I don’t think anyone here is saying that. Oh, wait, I get it now. You were just trying to be snarky. Well played, “Guest”, well played. ;-) Dear, “Guest”. No, the data available to the general public is not nearly as in-depth as what can be tapped directly in the MLS. It’s also not nearly as searchable. You cannot filter the data in nearly as useful or as powerful a way as the MLS allows.

And I for one don’t have a distrust of Realtors, any more than I have a distrust of my fellow investors or plumbers or pastors. People are people…some are awesome, some are rotten, some are ignorant. There just seems to be a large number of Realtors who don’t “get” investors, and tend to see us a necessary evil to be tolerated rather than a vital part of the real estate economy. Regardless it’s certainly not all of them, and I don’t think anyone here is saying that.

Oh, wait, I get it now. You were just trying to be snarky. Well played, “Guest”, well played. ;-)

]]> By: Guest http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155557 Guest Sat, 28 Apr 2012 02:14:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155557 I'm confused. So, investors want access to the data that is placed into a database and maintained by a group of people that they do not trust? There is a fairly simple solution. Instead of relying on the data in a database, compiled by Realtors for Realtors, you can actually get this information from the public records....on your own....for your own use. But, I guess that would require too much work. I’m confused. So, investors want access to the data that is placed into a database and maintained by a group of people that they do not trust? There is a fairly simple solution. Instead of relying on the data in a database, compiled by Realtors for Realtors, you can actually get this information from the public records….on your own….for your own use. But, I guess that would require too much work.

]]> By: jp moses http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155498 jp moses Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:38:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155498 Realtors are just people – some are good, some are bad. Some do a phenomenal job, others suck. Don’t write them all off…just know when to use them and when not to, and how to deal with the players and not the punks. :-) Realtors are just people – some are good, some are bad. Some do a phenomenal job, others suck. Don’t write them all off…just know when to use them and when not to, and how to deal with the players and not the punks. :-)

]]> By: Guest http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155497 Guest Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:48:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155497 I wish that people have options not to use realtors. My experience with most of realtors that I've dealt with is poor. I don't trust them at all. I do my own research before I do anything with realtors. I wish that people have options not to use realtors. My experience with most of realtors that I’ve dealt with is poor. I don’t trust them at all. I do my own research before I do anything with realtors.

]]> By: jp moses http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155496 jp moses Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:50:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155496 Hi, Ronson. Actually the MLS does give more (and better) info that Trulia and Zillow. It’s a lot more feature rich and the data can be manipulated in a number of ways. But I totally agree with you that they need competition. And actually they do have competition here in Memphis. One of our local brokers started a separate non-board MLS a few years ago and it’s gained quite a bit of steam. It can happen! Hi, Ronson. Actually the MLS does give more (and better) info that Trulia and Zillow. It’s a lot more feature rich and the data can be manipulated in a number of ways. But I totally agree with you that they need competition. And actually they do have competition here in Memphis. One of our local brokers started a separate non-board MLS a few years ago and it’s gained quite a bit of steam. It can happen!

]]> By: Ronson http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155495 Ronson Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:13:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155495 Why hasn't Google started an  MLS type listing, a one source For Sale By Owner site instead of one million of them on the web? MLS needs competition. What do realtors do? Unlock doors and lock them, collect  a commision.  They do not give anymore information than whats on Zillow and Trulia. Why hasn’t Google started an  MLS type listing, a one source For Sale By Owner site instead of one million of them on the web? MLS needs competition. What do realtors do? Unlock doors and lock them, collect  a commision.  They do not give anymore information than whats on Zillow and Trulia.

]]> By: Kauaigrls http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155293 Kauaigrls Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:24:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155293 How the heck can the MLS block a licensed real estate agent from services if they aren't members of their association or country club such as the NAR ? This is crap! This is a strongarm tactic to get us to join their crappy little club and pay them dues, for what? Their ethics? I already have ethics which I will write up on a sheet of paper and get properly notarized... How the heck can the MLS block a licensed real estate agent from services if they aren’t members of their association or country club such as the NAR ? This is crap! This is a strongarm tactic to get us to join their crappy little club and pay them dues, for what? Their ethics? I already have ethics which I will write up on a sheet of paper and get properly notarized…

]]> By: Matt http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155280 Matt Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:18:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155280 There is no reason why I should have to access and pay a third party (realtor) just to view the most recent listings and up to date data. Doing homework on ones own time is part of being a savvy consumer. With any other product you are able to obtain information and present to a meeting prepared. Such is not the case with real estate. Mls listings should be available to public discretion. There is no reason why I should have to access and pay a third party (realtor) just to view the most recent listings and up to date data. Doing homework on ones own time is part of being a savvy consumer. With any other product you are able to obtain information and present to a meeting prepared. Such is not the case with real estate. Mls listings should be available to public discretion.

]]> By: Dcmartin http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-155266 Dcmartin Tue, 07 Jun 2011 02:28:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-155266 Dishonest breed.  Man you really need to get checked out.  Realtor live by a code of ethics and if they don't live up to those standards anyone can bring them to a hearing.  The strange part is we are basically considered guilty until we prove our innocence.  Yes is there bad Realtors in the world , of course.  There is bad apples in any barrel, but the overwhelming majority are upright, honest, and very truthful.   Also monopolized by the Realtor Industry.  We created the MLS, we sell the homes in it, we pay for its upkeep, and yes we protect it's integrity.  The MLS is a small part of what we do.  The average home owner does not have the necessary tools or time to fully Market a property.  I am sorry for whom ever you have run into, but two wrongs don't make a right.  Examine yourself and see if you think you are doing the right thing.  As far as Keller Williams Agents working with Investors, yes, it is true.  We are a trusting bunch because we trust each other and we have to live up to another code.  A more stringent one in our WI4C2TS.  God bless you in your success as an investor, but examine if you truly believe in what you are doing. Dishonest breed.  Man you really need to get checked out.  Realtor live by a code of ethics and if they don’t live up to those standards anyone can bring them to a hearing.  The strange part is we are basically considered guilty until we prove our innocence.  Yes is there bad Realtors in the world , of course.  There is bad apples in any barrel, but the overwhelming majority are upright, honest, and very truthful.   Also monopolized by the Realtor Industry.  We created the MLS, we sell the homes in it, we pay for its upkeep, and yes we protect it’s integrity.  The MLS is a small part of what we do.  The average home owner does not have the necessary tools or time to fully Market a property.  I am sorry for whom ever you have run into, but two wrongs don’t make a right.  Examine yourself and see if you think you are doing the right thing.  As far as Keller Williams Agents working with Investors, yes, it is true.  We are a trusting bunch because we trust each other and we have to live up to another code.  A more stringent one in our WI4C2TS.  God bless you in your success as an investor, but examine if you truly believe in what you are doing.

]]> By: Realtor http://reitips.com/mls-access-without-license/comment-page-3/#comment-150082 Realtor Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:18:00 +0000 http://reitips.com/?p=1871#comment-150082 I am a Realtor whom just had an Investor pull this crap on me. Shameful. Waste of Time. Lack of Integrity. I will not be a part of this. I work hard to conduct business with the Upmost Integrity, and to have an Investor ask me for this information really angered me. Not only is it a violation of our MLS Rules (and yes I do see that there are obviously loopholes you are recommending), I was offered to be paid "on the side" for access. Disgusting! I am a Realtor whom just had an Investor pull this crap on me. Shameful. Waste of Time. Lack of Integrity. I will not be a part of this. I work hard to conduct business with the Upmost Integrity, and to have an Investor ask me for this information really angered me. Not only is it a violation of our MLS Rules (and yes I do see that there are obviously loopholes you are recommending), I was offered to be paid “on the side” for access. Disgusting!

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